And =how= much cheesecakebeefcake has driven Poser sales so far? Hmmmm? But actually, it's more a matter of new users buying the latest, or others finally getting into it. The P5 user base has just simply grown larger, and I think it outstrips the current P4PP installation base now. And if P6 has made some of the improvements that have been clamored for, and stabilized the new features....