Maybe we could get a global rendering network to split it up, maybe get it down to a few thousand years instead? :) Agiel: Oh yeah, I know, there are always limits, and eon definately has my vote as far as memory management goes, I've tried out a few other programs and most can't even come close to handling the sheer number of polygons that Vue does. And you're definately right about a vue forest being more diverse, it would just be nice to have a decent pine tree that can be spread out like eon shows it's maples being spread out like. The environments I want to create are dominated mostly by conifers and frankly Vue's christmas tree style "fir tree" just doesn't cut it, even using the editor it's just not what I'm looking for.