randym77: "Then the three admins all announced that they were quitting. That's when the general stampede toward the exits started." I'd thought of adding that, but there are credible murmurings that may lead them into possibly returning. I won't jeaopardize it by going into detail... sorry. Still thinking about adding the missing part, though. May toss it in anyway. Farside: "does Renderosity shut down and do we all delete the program immediately and never use it again?" If that were the case (doubt it, but...) then a patch would be released to remove the offending code. End-users (which I assume you are) can still use products in the private sense, because it was purchsed "in good faith." Merchants and artists selling bits of stolen goods on a commercial basis (like in renders or in products) OTOH are pretty much required to stop using the offending stuff, or face lawsuits themselves. I look at it as a ethical thing, myself. Even if I don't sell it or any derivative bit of it, I'd rather not continue to insult the real copyright holder by using it. /P