I can't say I've worked with vue, but I started out with Bryce and hit all the same walls. After nearly two years I stumbled on Cinema 4D 8. After three hours of playing I could do everything that I could do in Bryce (with the exception of vegitation for which you need Xfrog), and after that everything was easy fixes to old problems. I recommend Cinema 4D, at least give it a try, and if you don't like it you are really only out a couple hours and some download time. Regards, David