Thanks Varian. I should have spent the time on the mountain in the first place. This one I used anim8or to digitise a profile of the mountain from a picture and then lathed a 3d model. I agree the bridge looks better with a rail. Glad you like the sand. I'll tell how I created it. First I took a photo out of my car window of a gravel road. When I tried that it was too dark so I mixed in the milk texture and there you have it. I am glad you liked the improvement. Have fun Neil