thanks a LOT, Richard!!! ah-ha...deform tool!!! i forgot about that!!! i haven't used that one too much. i'll give this a try tomorrow and see if i can't fix it up!!! I really appreciate your help!!! yup, Misha, you're right...sometimes just impossible. this was one helluva a hard shot for me to do with one arm in a cast and without a tripod. yep, thank goodness for our shop of tools!!! :) hmmm, well i did photography back in the olden days, but i remember very little of it. pity...