So far the only person who has admitted to being in the first book in this thread is Rochr. Show us some of the 'lower end software' entries, or at least there current existing galleries. Who else is in it? What are you looking for? Do lower end images actually have a chance. ie: Realism=shinny! Is a great Poser pinup acceptable? These kind of answers would really help sort out some of the doubt about paying the fee. Geo