Ynasen if you are going to quote me use the entire line. "while the implementation is different, the underlying codebase / driver base is the same.." I already noted that "Games are Content Display. Poser is Content Creation." even then you are wrong. Poser is rendering of already created content. not that much different from rendering a game figure. why? the figure is already made. all that is changing is the co-ordinates of the vertexes in 3d Space. same as a game. also do you know just how many Geforce 2 cards are out there? in the UK there was a phase where 60% of all machines were shipped with a Geforce2 or Geforce2 shipset. was the US different?