An interesting thread. Forgive me for the late jump-in, but I'm back into Poser after about a year's hiatus for a variety of reasons. My husband purchased me Poser 5 for my birthay (ordering it the day before Poser 6 was announced, lol) V3 and M3 quickly turned me off. It seems almost impossible to make a truly unique face for either, even with all those freaking dials! I just pulled down the free utility to group M3 and V3's dials from the freestuff here, so maybe that will make them more friendly. There are some fantastic clothes for them, so I suspect they will mostly be in my fantasy renders. My tendancy is to buy mostly for textures and make my own characters. V3-M3 looked more like they were optimized for prebought characters. As someone already remarked, Traveler's morphs made Posette one of the most versitile faces ever. I think the key was the morphs that could raise and lower the cheekbones. None of the DAZ figures have ever had that ability, and I suspect that is what limits them. Posette's body, however, was a disaster that even Traveler's wizardry can't fix. I'm interested in a lot of different art genres, including fantasy, pinups and erotica, and having a figure with a good body is kind of a requirement for the latter two. I just finished fixing up all my files and runtimes for P5 so I have not had a huge amount of time to explore Judy or Don. EJ looks like she might be a worthwhile investment. Spent most of this morning looking around the communities at stores, free stuff, and weighing re-upping at Poserword vs. renewing Platinum club (since I can't afford both this month, lol!) Forgive my rambles, I think I'm getting Poser overload.