Donald, I hate to point out the obvious but have you ever thought that the reason you got this Trojan was because of what you do? If a hacker sees a challenge they go for it. A network admin is a sweet target. one that is in chaege of an enviorment that is "Mission Critical" is even sweeter. The trojan may not have morphed while you were fixing it. The greeks were already in the city. Fighting is exactly what you were doing. Thing is I bet it was with a live hacker. There are very few trojans that can penetrate that type of redundancy without being rather target specific. Check your back to make sure there isn't a red circle on it. Magick Michael