Umm. No Bloodsong. ;-) He's trying to bend the hip area. Not the legs. But I know what you're talking about. As long as the twist runs the length of the body part. You can actually get away with using the wrong rotation orders. You'll just have to drag the handles to the opposite sides they are in so it bends the right body part. What I posted is how you do it. Regardless of the rotation order. So Nyyyyaaaaa :-P ScottA