What's funny: one of the sloooooooowwwwwwesssssttttt and least featured renderers on the planet has one of the better Material systems around. ;) I'm working on 'approximating' it (ala Shadermaker) in Cinema 4D so you can use the same nifty-neato nodes with their non-nodal material system (and import them from Poser 5 scenes). Try some of the other Math nodes for interesting effects. :) Robert

C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot. C++ makes it harder, but when you do, you blow your whole leg off.

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