"She said to get rid of McAfee they used something called, 'Force' ? Anyone know what this is" Ctrl+Alt+Del -> End every McAfee task. Go to Program Files directory, delete McAfee directory. Go to Registry Editor, delete every mention of McAfee. Spybot Search & Destroy with Teatimer turned on. Or Ad-Aware Pro with AdWatch turned on. Hijack This! for occasional scanning. I have SP2, Bitdefender Pro antivirus, Ad-Aware, Zone Alarm. And Opera. Must not forget Opera. :-)

-- erlik