Tiny, Yeah I tried all sorts of things & they seem to think you are cheating by doing it on a computer. I have been a creative since the 80's, making money with it too. But when I changed over to 3D software stuff a few years ago it didn't seem that I was going to be taken seriously. I actually priced my pictures almost at cost, to supposedly get them seen. Still nothing! Those ones above in the poor quality photo are pixel perfect & huge, took days & days to render. Got to admit my work is a bit weird & in yer face, that's my danceclub decor days influence, but the Venues are highly respected on the cicuit. The Show above is where 'Banksy' the reknowned graffiti artist had his first show, so some kudos! It may have been down to the fact it was Xmas. God knows! Had to have a rant as it is now time to go back to sewing for me, gonna design some kites & hopefully make a living out of it. Glad I got that off my chest!! Rokol.