Maxx, I was hoping to get your perspective, thanks. I've already been leaning in the direction of that thinking...more or less "I've still got plenty of eggs to fry already with the character creation using my EJ strategy, etc." and "by the time I go thru everything required to Poserize Masha I might not be ahead of the game." The deal killer would be, as you seem to indicate, that even if I took this on for the express purpose of learning rigging in poser, this model still would function no better than what I already have, that it's power is optimized to run free in Max. We'll see. It's just that as soon as I saw Masha i got that sensation, as you picked up on, of "far more unique and versatile than many of the characters available for Poser." I will likely stay the course. I just completed an effects-test 1 minute animation, and am in pre-production of a six minute vinette with soundtrack and interiors and two characters. Let's see where that goes first, if I will be staying in Poser, etc. ::::: Opera :::::