download the vue4pro demo, you create trees and plants the same way in vue5 + the new features of course. theres of course a price difference so that has a say in what you end up using but i would go with vue5Infinite once its out, or if that is out of reach vue5 esprit, with that said, theres nothing wrong with bryce and its slightly more affordable so its your decision in the end :) Onyx and xfrog is of course 2 other options, which is both focusing more on the plants part then anything else, then again in my opinion you would still need either bryce or vue to compliment them. Anyway, my choice for a complete landscape and render app would be at this point vue5Infinite.