Well, I pre-ordered... I was very lucky not to have any serious problems with P5! Although I'm firmly in the Carrara camp for modeling, I also have v early versions of Cinema4D and Inspire that I use as needed, adding Shade to that tool box is a plus, and the price is right. Naturally there's a gamble that it won't have problems, there ALWAYS is with new software or major upgrades, it's oneof the reasons for "special offers" to pre-order. Alos CL has a pretty good track record for making fixes available in a timely fashion, at least in my book. mike