just out of curiousity, what causes those weird squares? at first i just thought it was at the edge of groups, but now i see it in the head on the side... is that the poser renderer or something poser has actually done to the mesh? or something else altogether? she's coming along nicely! i hope you don't have to redo everything regarding her texturing. it's so great to see her in poser. i really like her shoulders and i agree about the neck movement. if she'll be able to look over her shoulder properly instead of looking like she's part swan or going to star in the exorcist, she'll be more than i hoped for. but then, i'm not sure that's even possible. sending my portion of positive, calming thoughts