Thanks PBM! And I agree, dirk ... sometimes it seems as far as CL and DAZ go, it's "damned if you do, damned if you don't." I was one of those who got P5 early. And it didn't work on my machine until Service Pack 4, when I really started using it. I am giving it another shot because I agree with geep ... dollar for dollar, it's the most enjoyment I have ever received from ANY software program. And that includes 3DS Max and LightWave I love those programs as well, but I am TOTALLY hooked on Poser! LOL.