LOL! If the dolts can't be bothered to read the simple short readme with 4.1, how do we ever expect them to read the manual? Or even check the specs before buying? People who desperately need MAT files to change eye color from green to blue will have a problem with an entire room full of material nodes and no "make texture" button. Pity. And as soon as they encounter a dynamic dress which doesn't conform, they'll be throwing fits instead of fitting it. I confess that I still use DOS, there are some things it does quite well, and there is a shortage of viruses attacking it... however, I wouldn't expect to run a decent 3d modeling or rendering program in it! But there are people who will certainly blame CL for not supporting their legacy systems. Carolly