In regards to moogal, I am not complaining it is a discussion, ive always felt whining or complaining as Ive seen here is alot more vocal and demanding. The above was just my thoughts on the issue. I mean I do respect that you didnt purchase shade, but thats a bit of the crux of my discussion. There are those of us who did buy shade pretty much at jump, and did buy P5 and who dont need SHADE LE due to having a model higher than that. Its not the difference between 89.00 dollars and 129.00 because thats inconsequential as anyone knows. Anyway, thanks for the discussion. ..Im also glad that the preorder glitch seems to have been corrected for this who were having trouble. At this time i'll most likely just wait since I dont feel any compulsion to upgrade with the offers and packaging bundle at this time. Keep Posing in the shade.. because its cool there.