Gary P. setting up a scene is hard in any 3d app, and vue is one of the easiest for sure, but as with every app it has a learning curve aswell. As a comparision c4pro which shonner likes is a powerful application with nice feauters, many which it shares with vue5esprit/pro studio + some features which i would like to see in vue, but even tho ive given c3 and c4pro a solid run through for as long as the demos allowed me i just coudnt see myself using it instead of vue, why because it felt way to different and alien to my workflow, especialy when compared to vue, and for shonner perhaps its the other way around. And yep i have to agree Shonner, if youre using c4pro the only vue i would spend money on is v5I, comparing features i cant see the need for you to pick up anyother vue version if youre already a c4pro user, but v5I would in my opinion be worth it even if you have c4pro.