Esther, i don't think it is so easy - the 10% rule i mean. Not only because this is different from country to country maybe. I think the significant addition of creativity is something i would refer to more than a simple number. That is as it is here (in Germany) when i do understand it correctly. Your Adobe font example is a good one. The copyright situation MUST be clarified on the CDS or box or manual that comes from E-on. Otherwise it leaves all in this unclear situation. I haven't checked what is written there and will do it next week. For me it is clear when i would give a scene to E-on so that they can use them that #1 the copyright situation there is clarified and #2 that they have the full rights then. More important in here is the fairness thing. I think it is a question of fairness NOT to use these scenes and declare the results then as yours. We had that case some years ago. That someone simply took the scenes from the CD and posted them with a little (very little) modification here in the gallery and declared them as theirs. NOT FAIR!!! BTW, is it always possible to know who has done objects that are on these CDs? In the scenes maybe - maybe. BTW, isn't there minimum one scene that has the DAZ eagle in it? I don't think that this can be used without problem. But i am not sure wether it is the DAZ eagle really, to me it looks like. Bottom line? Not a real one. We all must think about wether we can arange this with our creative conscience. To use these things or not. That is my credo. I wouldn't.

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