Wow! Jaager I would never have thought of that---great idea and I'm going to try it out right away. Since I got Rhino, I've been using the magnets less and less, but maybe I'll have better success with them starting with a completely empty figure, morph-wise. And Bloodsong--always tryin' to get me into text editors---don't ya know I'm scared sh*tless of 'em, LOL! But anyway, I like your suggestion too, and I'll give it a try and see what happens. Thanks all! Mike