i see the clique is working well again. Claymor i would like to point out two things here, firstly this is a bryce challenge and not a modellers challenge, quoting you here "Your flyer may be modeled in any app but must be an original, the more fantastic the better" now if that is the case then why is this a BRYCE challenge. In all facts if you are going to judge those that enter this challenge on the merits of the originality and modelling then don't you and drac think this should be a modellers challenge. Another thing you should also take into consideration when setting these challenges out. Remember there are members that can't do modelling or are new to bryce and would maybe like to enter these challenges. But never mind the newer members as long as the clique keeps going we don't care hey mate...well done to you and drac for showing that it does exist on this forum. CrazyDawg (Lurking in the shadows)

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