OperaGuy - grow up - other grown up people have a right to have their say. This is entirely relevant to the poser forum, as it is a major release of the software. Other software forums also have members that give their opinion of price differentials so I cannot see how this forum is any different. I am in the UK saw the price - felt that the upgrade price was - not too bad - and upgraded. I was however delighted that Digital River and CL paid my 15% VAT for me. Dr Paul Cooper