Thanks Kate. I tried thickning the ankles but man, touch one part of a figure in Poser and the "dynamic scaling" or what ever its called through the whole body out of wack. Here is my try with magnets and morphs but you can see it an accountably effects the thighs. What this figure needs is some overall smoothing by some one with a proper modeling program. The arms joints behave perfectly but the knees are a total mess (though they are pretty bad on P4 Woman to begin with) and the extreme stretching on the tummy makes far a dark area when rendered with a texture. Other mistake I made was working this on the P4 Woman with Genitals for Realism, there are NO texture maps for this figure but the one it comes with! I wish Poser people or at least Vicky came with body type morphs, the abserd muscle definition they ship with causes me no end of grief. I'm cooked working on this figure for a while. What would help is a Traveler tutorial on taking a morph modified figure back to Amorphium for polishing, I think that is what this figure needs. Maybe next week I'll tackle it. Thanks again, Kate.