Hawke & suicidegirlz I was not talking about your postings in the Poser gallery. All though I said that they where borderline commercial too IMO (emphasis on IMO) there has to be some leeway where pictures using new or proposed new products are posted. I have no problem with that and I said so. Many artists/merchants do this, even Rembrandts classic painting, Dutch Masters, was commissioned by, and is an advertisement for, the Cloth Makers Guild as an example, and might be considered commercial. Thats OK. What about Andy Warhols famous modern pop art painting of a soup can? Glad you asked. The difference is that it was not done by the CEO of Campbell Soups to sell his soup and then hung in a museum as great art, but by an artist to make an artistic statement and express the artists vision (but Ill bet it sold a lot of chicken noodle soup though). Essexboy - Too many little snitches and whingers craping on about. Thank you for that colorful description of me but this is a huge international community and as such it must have rules and regulation in order to function reasonably well. I know that Artists and Rules dont get along too well. That is almost an oxymoron like Military Intelligence or Business Ethics but none the less, rules and regulations are necessary and should be followed in a venue the size of Renderosity (when possible, IMO) SndCastie The merchant/artist (or a mod, I dont know) has moved the image in question into the Product Showcase gallery. All is cool now and I think we all wasted enough time on this thread. (An aside to the merchant/artist If the number of views are a concern, you might want to post in the Product Showcase Forum. I think youll get a lot more hits and views there than the Product Showcase Gallery)