hi guys, Sorry about the move, apperently there was complains about this thread from what clint has told me I am not sure who complained, sigh i wish told by the person who had the complaint I would have helped the person, Clint told me of hte problem. I wish i knew sooner so I wouldn't have caused a problem. :) Anyways..... Updates. With my learning processes with joint rotation orders and how the mesh should be cut that is an interesting experance. But I am having problems with the breasts area. I have an idea how to fix the problem, I would need to recut the breast area... right and left breast would need to be attatched to the chest also the bones for the best would need to change to from the right/left shoulder to the chest and also the rotate order needs to be change and that will mean i would have to redo the joint parameters. :| But I plan to do this tonight... Come hell or high water I will get this model released for everyone. :) Keep an eyeball I will post some pictures tommrow.. :D XOXOXO Seraphira