I pre ordered P5, and after I installed it and ended up with a more or less unusable program, I told myself that I wouldnt buy another Poser product. Well here I am a couple of years down the road, P5 works, its still not quite what was promised, and Im a bit leary about P6, but I went and per ordered it. CL is owned by a different company now, I guess one with a good reputation. After P5 I think they will take care to release a program that works as promised. They are giving a big discount to people who pre ordered P5, so Im getting a special edition P6 with extra content, and Shade LE for about $75! Even if there are a couple of patches Ill live with. It surely cant be worse than P5.