yeah, Erlik, that cloning's gonna be a bit tricky, but i think i can do it. What's "classical golden cut composition"? thanks for your help advice! :) jc... didn't realize that about your uncle. so you're saying it's better to have the bird have more space where it's lookin' at? sorry, i was just a bit confused about what you were saying. not sure if i was following you. I'm feeling pretty sick right now. i do like this, jan-carel, and i appreciate you taking the time to do it!!! you give me another excellent choice! I'm still not sure what i will end up doing with this one since i love them all! it will be hard to decide! Thanks guys! :) Ya'all are the ones with cardinal knowledge! LOL!