you can get Poser5 to load from the XP desktop to fully loaded default (poser 5 man) in as little as 11 seconds (best time I have ever heard). Can you time your load and report it? Also, your 'rig' which is forum-speak for your CPU, your RAM, your HardDrive(s) and your Operating system, such as OSX or XPHome or Win98 etc. Normally people also report their video card, but that is not hugely significant with Poser. Do you know how to look at your running processes? ::::: Opera :::::