I think Vue is the biggest competition for DAZ, expecially the newest Vue 5 Infinite, I know is 599, but it is the best deal arround for a landscape renderer...will see what Terragen 2 is gonna be...:D DAZ is very slow when it comes to Bryce...I want features like GI, HDRI, SSS and instancing very soon, getting sick and tired of lightning my scenes for days and then rendering it for weeks :D