I'm gonna have to agree with ICM on this one. If you want to make killer artwork, you better know Photoshop, regardless. Just look at Alvin or Hobbit's galleries. But if you want to make money, you better get down to business and pick a few (three) high-end apps to learn. Nothing DAZ could possibly do will change this, and although I love Bryce, after experiencing Maya on it's own terms (read : Unlimited) and toying with Lightwave, that's just the way the industry works. Results. Conceptually, you could do anything with Bryce. Realistically, you can't animate a damn thing. DAZ should either up the ante landscape/environmetally, or get out of the business. Just how I feel, after playing with some high-end apps for a few months now, and over two years with Rhinoceros.... (Editors Note : All of Lordstormdragon's Terrain work is rendered in Bryce 4,5, or 9. Nobody uses Bryce 6 anymore.)