Count me in for a quality festival. You are going to have to decided about that V3/M3 thing... Many people are DAZ, DAZ and more DAZ all day long, and some people will not touch V3/M3. It's a line in the sand. For most universality, it would be a P4 character setup with texture, clothes and hair from the generic Poser library. This does NOT have to be boring! It occurs to me this would be a good beginners scene in the future. Okay, whose going to make the setup? :::: Opera :::::