oh Lordy .. just going through e-mails from R.R..how did the discussion develop in to self pleasure..and agree with tedz out of context..plus just noticed lm in the top 20..(( proves miracles can happen)) but promise you typing with both hands..and also to say.. agree with deviousmoose..who cares about the top 20 lifes to short... was always lead to believe the hot top 20 is just a fun element of the forum..now disengaging e-mails from this duscussion as my in box is over loaded.... hugs to all.. nikki nikki

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