I don't know about the Photography Forum, but in the Poser and Bryce Forums, the Hot 20 has been broken for years and just gets worse. When I was a staff member, I tried to do something about it, suggested killing it (with links to some of the most heinous of the abuses) or replacing it (with several reasonable ideas for galleries which would spotlight the GOOD work done here). Nope. Despite my best, most thoughtful arguments, the Hot 20 was kept intact. 5 years of complaints and we still have this vehicle for fraud, bribery, victimization. I have no hope that anything will change in the next 5 years. I do not vote, I do not rank. They are meaningless. I disabled ranking on my images. I wish there was a way to turn off voting so that an artist can completely opt out of it. Good comments are worthwhile, especially if they are helpful ones for improvement or that the viewer was touched mentally or emotionally by the image (art is communication, after all). A knowledgeable critique would be invaluable, but too many people are thin-skinned. I'd would far rather that we had a critiquing gallery where artists could submit good work and others could help make it better... that way we'd all learn. People who were too shy to submit a piece could still learn from the discussion. But, is this a learning site? Carolly