Ah, the bible, I'd heard of that. I'll take a look and see how much it costs. I still have to be careful for a while yet. On particular problems, does anyone know how you go about creating a sort of regular slate effect? (I mean roof slates) Or is that not particular enough? What about the kind of texture, or what you would suggest doing, with the interior of an Arrow loop... well a whole ring of arrow loops actually, going right around the tower?? Just using the same bare stone effect as the tower just doesn't cut it. I've tried the Tyrel building effect... but not happy with it. Any Ideas? Image... coming... soon... Got it. Fran

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