Hello, Thank you all for your replies, I will follow what you have suggested. As far as it being a "warez" copy, oh no, no, no. He is very big into doing all things visual from painting to especially lately digital. He works as a software tester and gets a lot of thing beta, etc, but this was store bought. One of the people he works with was using it in conjunction with a project and it peaked his interest. He buys a lot of software, some of it never gets used, or opened for that fact. He has Maya, which I dont know the version, but I dont believe it has made it off a bookshelf nor opened. This version of poser was going to be donated to his sisters church rummage sale but I seen it in a box and asked (never hurts to ask). Only problem is I have the box and the hard case but no manuals, nor any good leads until now to tutorials. Anyways I have been back and forth to this site over the past few months and it has intrigued me. I just became a member a little while ago and have mainly stayed a "lurker", admiring the images, be they digital, or photos. etc and the first mailing I received in email was of the passing of Chuck Seibuhr. I did not recognize the name but after viewing some of his work, I knew who he was. Was a sad day. I am mainly a Photoshop guy, and may find the intestinal fortitude to submit something for review and critique, but this request may just be my only forray from the shadows until the nerve is achieved.LOL. Thanks again for your assistance. Lloyd Harnish