(Kicks the order confirmation for the Lightwave book back deeper under the desk)I have not now nor have I ever considered trying to use other apps apart from using them as add ons to Bryce. Pay no attention to _________ (Insert app name here: Blender, C4D, Maya Ed version, or Lightwave 7) being installed on this computer. As to Wings...they've come a hugely long way. I actually won a monthly challenge there once upon a time. Couldn't come close now.