Shonner: Well, if every image that ever used photoshop or some other 2d graphics suite for anything, stated that, then 99.9% of all advertising images for 3d works would have to say so. Most people who do GREAT work, use a 2d program along with the 3d program, as they make textures (there are slight limits to what can be done with procedurals unless you make extreme amounts of shading domains) or they do compositing, or for that matter just simply cropping or resizing. I think it should have something to do with how extensively other software was used. It's almost like adding Windows or Mac OS X was used to run the program on (yes I know it's extreme to say that, as it's not the same thing, but exaggeration is one of the things that makes language work). Infocentral: Carrara didn't make the images, they just asked the artist who used there software for the rendering to be allowed to use it. So, yes, you are correct, but what you wrote stated that eovia made those images themselves internally. Yes, I am being a nitpicky bastard. And Brian is right, they should try to get more of that great Amapi stuff shown off. I know from amapi.net that some of the users(thinking of stu (laughingnome), who did his first Carrara render in early Feb, and he makes amazing Amapi work) of Amapi are not familiar with using Carrara. Then I think maybe the Eovia guys should help setting up the scene and rendering in Carrara along with the original artist, either through simple tips and stuff, or by actually doing the lighting setup and such. Have it rendered and used for advertising.