Stonemasson could do some stunning work on the textures, he is one of the best texturer's for this kind of scenary I've seen. The only thing I'd say about the lack of P4 textures is if you transfer the Poser file to another program (poseray, Bryce, Vue etc) the model will probably be untextured or misrepresented in the conversion. I, like others, don't use Poser as a final product renderer. best wishes Jody