mike, kort...thanks guys! i realize this photo doesn't stand by itself. but when i did it, i looked at it and saw myself as a scared kid. ya know. i thought the image said it all. i still look at that image and see that terrified kid. but i wasn't able to be objective. anyway, i have ideas on how to do it so others will know what i'm talking about when they look at the image. i was working on it last night, but i dunno...we'll see. thanks for looking, listening, and also for the feeback ya'all!!!!! :)