I started Vue 4 from Bryce to take advantage of Poser animations. A great start. Upgraded to Vue 4 Pro and VERY pleased with the results. Checked at the Vue 5 Esprit demo (GI, radiosity). Blown out of my socks. Eagerly, pants-pissing awaiting the immanent arrival of the most highly exalted Vue 5 Infinite complete with the Ecosystem thingy (angel choir sound here). Really it depends on what you need out of it. That wasn't very useful, was it?