I never said it was out i said it was getting very close to V1 ,Also i must add that i prefer DAZs way of doing things and that is to have a full public beta period so the release doesn't go out until it is fully working ,"It should have been released last year" well the thing is that i guess the Dev crew at DAZ got excited and surpassed the features that where supposed to be in the original V1 release ,Im guessing here but this is probably why it has been delayed to full release ,I was in contact with DAZ a long time ago and was told that DS wouldn't be able to replace Poser for animation in the V1 release so i didn't bother waiting for the first beta ,The thing is though it isn't out of beta just yet and it already does animation ,I think they have raised the bar on this product just by making it open ,Imagine how gutted CL will feel when exporters and cloth and hair plugs arrive from proper developers ,Believe me panic is setting in and theres nothing they can do ,Posers whole architechture is so out of date its going to take a complete rewrite and GUI overhaul for it to ever be taken seriously again ,The problem is we know that is never going to happen with CL ,They promissed a complete rewrite before and it didn't happen ,DS is the next generation of Poser for pro users and this will be shown in its support in the coming times.