OK folks... I do not really want to lock this thread. It seems we ALL agree that SOME tubers do steal others' work, and that is Wrong. After some clarification... it seems we also all accept that there are some tubers who do work within the law, creating original and creative images. Mizrael, your initial post was perhaps made in the heat of the moment, and on reflection, maybe you can see that you did make some rather sweeping statements which have upset others. Rather than clarify your intent and clear up misunderstandings, you have chosen to go on the attack, which I do not understand. May I suggest you reread your initial post and consider just why it has annoyed others? And then perhaps we can drop this matter - on which we all seem to agree the fundamentals anyway (that theft is Wrong) - and get on with creating some art of our own? Thank you. Karen Poser Moderator

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