well then, we've been giving you the wrong advice because you were not honest about your approach...you said you were serious about upgrading and we took your word...we've been suggesting the best program, Poser 5 leading to 6 and that you spend a lot on hardware because that's the best thing to do for success with Poser. Sorry. ::::: Opera ::::: P.S. I doubt Storm shares your reasoning about older sys becoming "junk", and neither do I...just the opposite. Usefull, still, AND you go out and spend good money on yourself so you always have the best primary system. J.