jordy, it makes me proud that I have heros like you and Tedz to look up to. Also, your point well taken that yes the family at Renderosity has indeed weathered another storm. and I think the operative word is "family". We are a rather diverse group from an extremely wide and varied background. Here we have mixed in a bunch of people from literally around the world that yes at times seem to be at each other's throats and ready to storm the castle walls and reign in destrution and chaos. But like you say Jordy, we pause, take a step back, and even though we still have those times again in the future, like in any family, we are still a family....didn't mean to go mushy, must be all the flu meds I'm taking.....