Keith - Yeah, the viewing glitch happened as they switched to new server code to handle the increased volume here. Before that there was only one image that had somehow glitched "1500" in that fashion in the view counts. I'm not sure how they would go about fixing it, though - how do you determine how many "real" hits a pic had on those images in a way that's transparent and fair-seeming and won't upset someone? Unless they know the algorithm - ie: each view counted exactly 75 views or something. I reckon it's like lazydog said, above - easier to add new options than hacking back into the code? Sounds like he probably knows something about software. The only software I know about is the "software" that's accumulated around my waistline since I parked myself in front of this monitor a couple years ago and started pushing a mouse instead of a hefty set of metal plates on a stout steel barbell every night - LOL! I reckon maybe the best gage of an image might be the number of viewings it got rather than the number of comments? Probably means more interest in the All/All page and even if they don't comment, they were at least INTERESTED and it caught their eye. When it all boils down to it, I reckon the way things are with the H20 is just natural human animal nature. Though I do try to use my votes scrupulously, I won't say that I've NEVER voted for something that was out of my field of expertise and I even did the "V" thing once, maybe twice, way back when for an artist who seemed really sad and bummed about a low amount of votes and rankings and I just wanted him to cheer up. He made really cool XD shapes. He doesn't post here anymore but mostly just because he just moved on to something else other than XD and fractals. This type of thing is rarely a life-long pursuit, I'm sure. Though I've done them and then quit fractal art numerous times since the 90's and always return. This is, by far, my longest continuous stretch of fractalling and I reckon it's largely due to the amazing - not sure how deserved it is - amount of encouragement I've received here. Nothing kicks up creativity better than a positive attitude as you are making a fractal because you know/think/believe someone actually liked the last one. I think the "back slapping" stuff has some real effect and helps to keep folks keepin' on. Though I completely understand the frustration that that causes to some artists who know/believe their work is technically superior. Moreso than fractals, I reckon a large part of T-gen work does involve technical aspects and photo-realism on top of creative scene building and maybe a schlep like me has no business going there and voting for things like colors or light because they are what a person with an abstract fractal mindset keys on. But there are quite a few fractallists here that have really progressed simply because they wer encouraged to keep at it and have made progressively more complex and skilled images over time. Like William(paragon5), Classylady, Marit and that new guy, Smitty (smitts - lol) is growing by leaps and bounds. There are MANY more, these just came off the top of my head. For all the attention my stuff gets, I've never fooled myself and thought I was any "better" than anyone else. I do fractal art in a certain very work intensive, technical style but that doesn't stop me from admiring images made in a different style or just because there's not a jillion layers to it. Some of the very best fractal ART here is simpler and uncomplicated, very pleasingly composed or harks back to the types that originally attracted me to this obsession and I flip over them because, for all the layers I use - I can't do that! I get lots of (much appreciated) comments - but I know in my heart that I'm still lightyears away from the sheer artistry of someone like Janet Parke or the amazing colorings that Keith or Toby come up with or Linda A, Jackie, Kim and Joey's spirals or the utter coolness of a Simon Kane or Bruno Contant abstract or the texture work of Kuzy and Paul D., the geometries of Klaus-Peter, the amazing scope and layers of Maria Kinsey's "Relativity' and "Still-life", Daneile's "Archimboldo" but I'll keep striving and feel hopeful in part due to the encouragement I receive here. It really DOES help. Other than a few structural changes, I don't see what really can be done to make EVERYONE happy with the system here without cutting off most all discourse between artists here. The rest is just typical human behavior and is how humans are and have been acting in large groups since forever. You're always going to have a mix - Straight shooters, cheaters, brilliant folks who sit aloof, others that try to game the system, nice people, bad people, average people....."fat kids, skinny kids, kids who climb on rocks - tough kids, sissy kids, even kids with chicken pox"! lol The thing is that we ALL care and like this "hotdog" we're eating and to try to grin and bear it when it comes without "ketchup" now and then or too much "mustard" for some, try to improve it and also to just learn to shut it off when the pc is shut down. Rick