Mz, don't worry about apologizing, I didn't aim that at making you feel guilty :-) You didn't offend me - public opinion en masse is what does that. Your words mean a lot; as for having overcome the struggle, I haven't done that yet - a point which has been made even more poignant tonight when I found out some news about someone I used to know which has knocked my spirits somewhat, even though it's good news for them and overall good for me that they are out of my life a little bit more. sigh There are many times I feel that keeping a happy 'mental balance' is too much like any other dependancy or addiction, and there are still too many times when I feel like "falling off the wagon", so I guess I fall into the category which you describe first! Thanks for your reply, though, and I hope you get there with your aim ;-) Mike.